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Match 2019 Round 17 Cowboys (A) v Roosters - Teams & Discussion

Jagjaxon

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Murray is playing u20s origin so that could be why, but who knows
 

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COWBOYS backline utility Te Maire Martin has made another major step in his recovery process joining the Cowboys for training yesterday.

Martin was on the back field getting involved in a few running drills as he continues his return from a brain bleed scare earlier this season. Coach Paul Green said it was a good feeling for the club to see Martin return to the training fields at 1300SMILES Stadium.

“He is doing really well. It is good to have him back among the boys and doing some training with us,” he said. “It is just a wait-and-see approach with him, up his training and hopefully he copes well with it, but at this stage he is going really well.”

Martin has not played for the Cowboys since the loss to the Bulldogs back in Round 7 after scans revealed he had a “small bleed” on the brain.

He has slowly worked his way back to the training ground, going from being bedridden to getting physically active on his own. All the way along his process, the Cowboys have kept close tabs on the 23-year-old sending him to several specialists for consultation.

Green believed the return to the training paddock would be good for Martin as well, as he gets back to normal life as a footballer.

“When you are used to doing that every day, coming to training with 40 odd blokes, it is a big change for your routine,” he said.
 

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Well, that’s Morgo out this week, surely. 2 games in a row with a headknock.
 

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I don't reckon that would have KO'd him had he not had the head knock last week. It highlights the impact these things can have on a person.

(Not a doctor).
 

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I don't reckon that would have KO'd him had he not had the head knock last week. It highlights the impact these things can have on a person.

(Not a doctor).
Was thinkin this last night. 2 games 2 head knocks. Gonna be on the sidelines for a while I'm guessin
 

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The repeated concussions are the dangerous ones (where the initial head knock hasn't fully healed). That's where you can get serious complications and lasting effects.

See what the docs have to say but I am thinking it will be several weeks for Morgo.
 

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I find it amusing that we’ve all become overnight doctors and are attributing his concussion last week to last nights one. He copped a stray elbow to the head ffs. A concussion last week or not wasn’t going to stop him from being put to sleep. It was a nasty blow that he wasn’t expecting.

I think we can all agree that the best thing for Morgo is a couple of weeks on the sideline, as well as extensive testing to ensure there is no long lasting effects or risks moving forward for him.
 

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The repeated concussions are the dangerous ones (where the initial head knock hasn't fully healed). That's where you can get serious complications and lasting effects.

See what the docs have to say but I am thinking it will be several weeks for Morgo.
I agree, my medical research, judging by the angle of the strike and the colour of the grass where his head hit. I would recommend 4 weeks.
 

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I find it amusing that we’ve all become overnight doctors and are attributing his concussion last week to last nights one. He copped a stray elbow to the head ffs. A concussion last week or not wasn’t going to stop him from being put to sleep. It was a nasty blow that he wasn’t expecting.

I think we can all agree that the best thing for Morgo is a couple of weeks on the sideline, as well as extensive testing to ensure there is no long lasting effects or risks moving forward for him.
Umm, I think I specifically said I wasn't a doctor in my post. Concussion is cumulative, the more you get, the more likely you are to get it. I don't think speculating on whether the last one contributed to this is any wilder than you saying a stray elbow would have knocked him out regardless.


(Not a doctor - although I do watch UFC - surely that counts for KO research??)
 

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Umm, I think I specifically said I wasn't a doctor in my post. Concussion is cumulative, the more you get, the more likely you are to get it. I don't think speculating on whether the last one contributed to this is any wilder than you saying a stray elbow would have knocked him out regardless.


(Not a doctor - although I do watch UFC - surely that counts for KO research??)
He unexpectedly ate McGuire’s elbow. A history of concussion or not, that’s putting a lot of people to sleep.

He was cleared by experts to return to play for this match. If the risks were adverse returning in the time frame that he did, they simply wouldn’t have cleared him like the Luke Keary situation.
 

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He unexpectedly ate McGuire’s elbow. A history of concussion or not, that’s putting a lot of people to sleep.

He was cleared by experts to return to play for this match. If the risks were adverse returning in the time frame that he did, they simply wouldn’t have cleared him like the Luke Keary situation.
The experts are finding out new things every day and the NRL are following policy based on best practice and pressures of the sport. They are not following best practice. Best practice would be like f*ck no! Stay away from contact sports for a while, don't run out onto the hardest rugby league arena after a week or so of having a serious concussion.

The SCAT5 (unfortunate name) - the internationally recognised assessment tool says between 10 -14 days of recovery is needed for the majority of concussion symptoms to resolve.

Either/either with all the precautionary steps put in place in the guidelines, I wonder if they wrote them specifically for SOO level? Probably not.

Anyhow, agree to disagree if you like. I don't want to play forum ping pong on this.

(Forgot to mention..... Not a doctor)
 

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The experts are finding out new things every day and the NRL are following policy based on best practice and pressures of the sport. They are not following best practice. Best practice would be like f*ck no! Stay away from contact sports for a while, don't run out onto the hardest rugby league arena after a week or so of having a serious concussion.

The SCAT5 (unfortunate name) - the internationally recognised assessment tool says between 10 -14 days of recovery is needed for the majority of concussion symptoms to resolve.

Either/either with all the precautionary steps put in place in the guidelines, I wonder if they wrote them specifically for SOO level? Probably not.

Anyhow, agree to disagree if you like. I don't want to play forum ping pong on this.

(Forgot to mention..... Not a doctor)
There are different sets of protocol for different types of concussion. The experts are not going to put significant risk to players for a football game of added importance. At the end of the day, it is their reputations on the line, especially with the amount of scrutiny this subject has received in recent times. You can have your opinion, but it goes against every single medical practitioner that examined him after the Dragons game, and ultimately cleared him to play last night.
 

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Brent Tate imagines Cowboys will sit out Michael Morgan for a few of weeks after suffering 2 concussions in 2 weeks, has been ruled out of #NRLRoostersCowboys

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Morgan hasn't had the luckiest of seasons. Feel for him in general, not just on the TKO and KO.

Opportunity for Clifford however. Hopefully he trusts himself and has been working on a couple of things with H2OMG.

Even if it is about laying out some road spikes for Teddy.
 
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