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2019 Recruitment and Retention Thread

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Val is enjoying a gap year. A holiday to the US, marrying his partner and a lot of publicity about will he or won't he etc. Now he just needs to come home in time to open our new stadium.
 

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Val is enjoying a gap year. A holiday to the US, marrying his partner and a lot of publicity about will he or won't he etc. Now he just needs to come home in time to open our new stadium.
Stuff him. I hope we move on and fast. Waiting around on him is foolish.
 

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NFL fan here, I don’t think that really impacts Val too much. His chances of cracking t initially will almost certainly be through kick returning, and hope of slot receiving, or less likely running back, would probably come later on. Jets don’t have a top returner and I actually give him more of a genuine chance than most, as it’s a position that is rarely filled by return specialists, often it’s receivers or running backs that drop back there for a punt. I honestly think he would be really good at kick returns and will pick up reading the blocks relatively easily. This is what happened with Hayne, made the roster on his kick returning ability, and then played some running back aswell. What Hayne did was absoloutely incredible and he deserves more credit. If he didn’t drop his first reception in regular season, I think he could’ve had a very different career.
Ty Montgomery was sacked from the packers for failing to following coaches instructions and take a knee in the ingoal, instead opting to run it and subsequently fumbling and losing the game. He’s average at best, I couldn’t understand why they kept playing him.
 

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NFL fan here, I don’t think that really impacts Val too much. His chances of cracking t initially will almost certainly be through kick returning, and hope of slot receiving, or less likely running back, would probably come later on. Jets don’t have a top returner and I actually give him more of a genuine chance than most, as it’s a position that is rarely filled by return specialists, often it’s receivers or running backs that drop back there for a punt. I honestly think he would be really good at kick returns and will pick up reading the blocks relatively easily. This is what happened with Hayne, made the roster on his kick returning ability, and then played some running back aswell. What Hayne did was absoloutely incredible and he deserves more credit. If he didn’t drop his first reception in regular season, I think he could’ve had a very different career.
Ty Montgomery was sacked from the packers for failing to following coaches instructions and take a knee in the ingoal, instead opting to run it and subsequently fumbling and losing the game. He’s average at best, I couldn’t understand why they kept playing him.
Kick returns would bore Val Holmes to death and he will just waste his best abilities by getting smashed by defenders. He will be back in league in no time.
 

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Kick returns would bore Val Holmes to death and he will just waste his best abilities by getting smashed by defenders. He will be back in league in no time.
Silly comment, he’s left everything behind to chase a dream in the nfl, to suggest he could play in arguably the biggest comp in the world and get bored is ridiculous. Yes, odds are he will find himself back in league in the next few years, but if he genuinely makes a roster and holds down any position, zero chance he gets “bored to death” and comes home to play humble old rugby league.
 

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Silly comment, he’s left everything behind to chase a dream in the nfl, to suggest he could play in arguably the biggest comp in the world and get bored is ridiculous. Yes, odds are he will find himself back in league in the next few years, but if he genuinely makes a roster and holds down any position, zero chance he gets “bored to death” and comes home to play humble old rugby league.
Well, that can’t really be realised untill he plays. He very easily could be bored to death with the game once he starts playing it and starts sitting on the sidelines for hours on end. It’s a very different game to being in everything for 80 minutes straight. He might legitimately just see it as a way to get paid to watch some NFL games from one of the best seats in the house, you just don’t know.

Look at those Aussie Tennis dickheads, they’re seemingly bored with the game on the world stage, but the pats just to damn good to quit.
 

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Silly comment, he’s left everything behind to chase a dream in the nfl, to suggest he could play in arguably the biggest comp in the world and get bored is ridiculous. Yes, odds are he will find himself back in league in the next few years, but if he genuinely makes a roster and holds down any position, zero chance he gets “bored to death” and comes home to play humble old rugby league.
Leaving nothing in the tank , testing yourself for 80 minutes in attack and defence verses a few seconds involvement in four hours, they get paid more because it's a bigger economy not because they are inherently better.

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Silly comment, he’s left everything behind to chase a dream in the nfl, to suggest he could play in arguably the biggest comp in the world and get bored is ridiculous. Yes, odds are he will find himself back in league in the next few years, but if he genuinely makes a roster and holds down any position, zero chance he gets “bored to death” and comes home to play humble old rugby league.
I am a NFL fan, but even I would get bored in a few positions as an NFL player. In league, you can stay on the field for 80 and influence the game on both ends. In the NFL, you are limited in what your role is (excluding quaterbacks and a few other important positions).
 

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Val is 24 years old.
Has won premiership, played Origin, Australia. Scored ridiculous amount of tries for both.
If he is going to get bored, it would be playing NRL. What else does he need to do.
Like every professional, whether you are an athlete or not, you want to continually test yourself, 'sharpen the saw' and face challenges.
This is what Val is doing. If Val has a crack at NFL and ends up failing, he has still done the right thing by him.
'I am bored playing in the NFL' - said no one ever.
Good Luck Val !!
 

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Val is 24 years old.
Has won premiership, played Origin, Australia. Scored ridiculous amount of tries for both.
If he is going to get bored, it would be playing NRL. What else does he need to do.
Like every professional, whether you are an athlete or not, you want to continually test yourself, 'sharpen the saw' and face challenges.
This is what Val is doing. If Val has a crack at NFL and ends up failing, he has still done the right thing by him.
'I am bored playing in the NFL' - said no one ever.
Good Luck Val !!
He has not won a premiership for the Cowboys yet....
 

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Lol...

Why would winning a premiership for the club that gave him the arse be on his bucket list ???

I'll say again, I'd love to see he play for Cowboys, but I'd love it more to see him be a success in the NFL. As Morgo, said in his presser, its big for a kid from Rasmussen who went to Weir State School to make it to the NFL.
 

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Reported on NRL tonight that Gutherson has rejected Parra’s latest offer in the last 24 hours.

What are we waiting for? Can anybody living in Thurstonville confirm whether construction has begun for king gutho’s castle on top of castle hill?
 

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Considering he knocked back a reported $500,000 then an upgraded contract on top of that from Parra I think he has priced himself out of a bid from us. We could find better value elsewhere
 

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Considering he knocked back a reported $500,000 then an upgraded contract on top of that from Parra I think he has priced himself out of a bid from us. We could find better value elsewhere
Better value where, and who?
 

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Better value where, and who?
The Dragons have two young guys in Dufty and Field off contract this year, either could be a good target. It's not really important, my point is that Gutherson is not worth what he is asking in my opinion.

I would rather we bought nobody than saddle the club with a fat contract for a guy who has a serious injury history and is good but not great.
 
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