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By the off chance we get Holmes on a big money contract. Where does this leave Drinky?
 

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Always thought this is what they were planning for if he fails. So I take it he will play fullback if it happens with drinkwater to 6 .
 

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Drinks to 6, cliff at 7, morgs into the centre with Feldt outside him
 

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Drinks to 6, cliff at 7, morgs into the centre with Feldt outside him
Morgo is on a million a year isn't he? Sorry you don't get paid big bucks like that to sit out in the centres unless you're a freak of nature like Inglis or Latrell.
 

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Morgo will be 7 if this happens. Best Clifford will be is a 14 or maybe he could develop into a hooker.
 

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Donuts is on the money.
Morgo is not the answer for us playing in the halves, don't start banging on about 2017. Consistently with him in the halves (without JT) the club has not had a great deal of success. I'd be happy to see him move to centres - I don't care how much he is on, if that is the best fit for the team than so be it.
Welcome home Val.
 

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Donuts is on the money.
Morgo is not the answer for us playing in the halves, don't start banging on about 2017. Consistently with him in the halves (without JT) the club has not had a great deal of success. I'd be happy to see him move to centres - I don't care how much he is on, if that is the best fit for the team than so be it.
Welcome home Val.
Is that your opinion or is there a bit of mail behind it?
 

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North Queensland have money for Valentine Holmes if NFL bid fails
AUGUST 07, 2019

North Queensland bosses have declared they will not return to the club’s dark ages and have set aside funds in the salary cap ready to lure Valentine Holmes from the NFL to spark a Cowboys revival next season.

On the eve of Thursday night’s Queensland derby, Cowboys football operations chief Peter Parr hit back at suggestions North Queensland are a club in decline following the retirement of champion playmaker Johnathan Thurston.

The 13th-placed Cowboys are set to miss the finals for the second consecutive year and have come under fire for their recruitment-and-retention after losing Kalyn Ponga, Brandon Smith and Viliame Kikau in the last three years.

Michael Morgan was tipped to lead a Cowboys finals charge this season in the post-Thurston era but instead North Queensland have been also-rans, languishing in the bottom four entering the Broncos derby.

Parr has been a pivotal figure in the reconstruction of the Cowboys.

An 18-year employee, he joined the club in 2001 after North Queensland won a third wooden spoon.

It was Parr who pulled off a poaching raid on Canterbury whiz-kid Thurston, whose arrival in Townsville in 2005 transformed the Cowboys into a premiership powerhouse.

Now, one year into Thurston’s retirement, head-of-football Parr vowed the Cowboys will not tolerate mediocrity and has challenged the playing group to finish the season strongly — starting against Brisbane.

“There is time to resurrect something,” Parr said.

“If we implode over the next five weeks then it goes from a disappointing season to seriously disappointing.

“Challenging and disappointing would be the two words I would use to sum up this year, but no one is giving up here.

“I am loathe to reflect too much on the season until it is actually finished, but there is still a challenge for the players to finish off the season as well as they possibly can.

“Nobody at this club wants to return to the dark days and I’m confident that won’t happen.

“In some of our early years, we simply weren’t competitive and I don’t believe that has been our club this season.

“We are a long way from the doldrums. The closeness of the competition these days shows clubs can rebuild quickly.

“We will be moving into a new stadium next year, we have our Centre of Excellence on the horizon. We’re not sitting here thinking our current position means we will be stuck here long term.”

Parr believes Thurston’s retirement is only one factor in North Queensland’s free fall this season.

The club has suffered another horrendous injury toll, including freak setbacks with Te Maire Martin, who suffered a brain bleed, and Justin O’Neill, who was the Cowboys’ leading tryscorer when he sustained a life-threatening ruptured spleen against Canberra in May.

Ben Barba, the club’s star off-season recruit tipped to inject attacking flair at fullback, did not play a single minute after being sacked in pre-season for an off-field incident within a month of his arrival.

“Losing ‘JT’ was always going to be a factor but I felt we were well covered in that area,” Parr said.

“We’ve had some challenges around injuries no doubt and some of them have been long-term ones.

“In some games this year, we’ve had 40 per cent of our players available, so our roster has taken a hit. But in saying that, we’ve been in a position to win a number of games and we haven’t been able to do that.

“Against Souths (three weeks ago), we led with eight minutes to go and somehow got beaten by 12.

“Mentally, we haven’t had the ability to play the full 80 minutes in a number of games.”

The Cowboys have been pilloried for losing three of the code’s brightest talents.

Kikau has proved a back-row sensation at Penrith, Smith is flourishing at the Storm, and Ponga has become a Queensland Origin star at Newcastle.

“We have to cop the criticism over losing those guys,” Parr said. “It’s difficult, you can’t keep everyone with the salary cap.

“In 2015, 2016 and 2017, we made two grand finals and a preliminary final. Around that time, we had to make decisions on our roster and those three guys felt they were roadblocked for whatever reason.

“We felt we had given them career paths but their agents told us they felt otherwise.

“They didn’t leave the Cowboys as seasoned players. We tried to keep them all. We tabled what we felt were healthy contracts but they chose to go elsewhere.

“If we let other players go to keep Kikau, for example, would we have won the comp in 2015? It’s hard to answer. But our decisions led to a premiership. Some individuals will always look for other opportunities.”


The Cowboys remain hopeful of securing NFL aspirant Holmes next season.

The former Queensland Origin ace makes his debut for the New York Jets in a trial match tomorrow morning but if he fails to make their 53-man squad, Holmes could be back in the NRL by February next year.

The Cowboys tabled a mega five-year deal to Holmes before his American departure and are keeping room open under the salary cap.

“We are still in a position to sign someone of Val’s calibre if he is to come on to the open market,” Parr said.

“We’d be in a position under the salary cap to have a conversation with Val or any other player of his calibre.

“I’m not sure where he is at with his NFL dream. But certainly, depending on what he was looking for, we would be able to come up with a competitive offer for him.

“If it doesn’t work out for him in America, then we would certainly still have interest in Val.

“We’d be mad not to have another conversation with him. Val could transform our backline.”

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Some interesting quotes from Parr.
 

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Donuts is on the money.
Morgo is not the answer for us playing in the halves, don't start banging on about 2017. Consistently with him in the halves (without JT) the club has not had a great deal of success. I'd be happy to see him move to centres - I don't care how much he is on, if that is the best fit for the team than so be it.
Welcome home Val.
Outside of JT, he is the best player we got... Followed by Drinkwater. He is the only reason we put on points. When he doesn't play well neither do the team. Chicken?.. Egg? dunno? He is a way better half than Clifford at this stage. It is not the best fit for him to go to centre imo.
 

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Is it weird that Parr is whoring himself out to the press instead of Green? I know Green is kinda media averse, but Parr is making these grandiose statements about the future of the club and never once mentioned the coach...
 

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Is it weird that Parr is whoring himself out to the press instead of Green? I know Green is kinda media averse, but Parr is making these grandiose statements about the future of the club and never once mentioned the coach...
Fates could be tied together.
 

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/cowboys-1m-war-chest-ready-to-swoop-as-valentine-holmes-as-his-nfl-hopes-cool/news-story/51eaee01e0e95acd6ae045c73dd057e8

Cowboys ready to swoop with $1m war chest as Valentine Holmes’ NFL hopes cool

The Cowboys are firming as the likely destination for Valentine Holmes with reports suggesting his NFL dream may be coming to an end.

Paul Kent believes the lack of coverage of Holmes in the US media points to the likely conclusion that Holmes will struggle to make the New York Jets final 53-man roster.

“So far in all the trials Val Holmes hasn’t been getting much of a mention,” Kent told NRL 360.

“The independent American press don’t give him much of a mention let alone a chance.

“He spoke today about the NRL being an option and more than likely it appears that he will be heading back.”

James Hooper believes North Queensland have positioned themselves as the most likely team to be able to afford Holmes should he return to the NRL next season.

“The Cowboys have got a war chest and they have been waiting for this to come to fruition,” Hooper said.

“They will have more than a million dollars free in their salary cap and they will just want to get the deal done with Valentine.”

However Kent pointed out that the Cowboys have already signed a fullback in Scott Drinkwater, which could create a headache for Paul Green.

“The interesting thing is though that they have recently signed Drinkwater, who has been a revelation for them,” Kent said.

“So I don’t know what there plans is.”
 

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There has been about 8 different articles re: Holmes this week from being smashed to running around real well to coming home. Is there any truth to this? If so...



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It feels like March again. We were sure things to have him here by Round 8 IIRC, so I won't be letting myself get too excited.
 

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Cliffo is way better than he has shown so far in the NRL, I hope we don't lose him.

Drinky does look more likely so far though and has played in the halves.

Morgo needs to step up too or he might find himself the odd man out if Cliffo kicks on.
 
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Morgan's never got time. The great players always seem to have time. He shouldn't play so close to the line. Especially on 5th tackle kicks, he's always so rushed.
 

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If the Cowboys I.G is anything to go off, apparently Sam Murphy is contracted to us despite no official confirmation. Another great cock up from the club smh
 
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